If I may use Job as a perfect example of the two separate forms of belief :The “nature” of the Illusory Doctrines of ‘determinism’ as a replacement theology for Predeterminism
In Job 3:3, we find the ‘nature religion’ of the Fates and their illusory doctrines of fate as called upon by Job through his newly ‘gifted’ worldview. Though the “Fates” did not exist in Job’s day, as they do in Norse mythology, it was a ‘natural default’ to become fatalistic when one’s belief in the Sovereignty of God is dismissed.
If I may turn my explanation to an interpretation of the storyline of Job for a moment: *God places Job in “Abad (Hebrew: Abaddon: “place of perishing”)” without dying. In a sense, Job is a journalist placed into the world of nonsense (a place of ‘no-signage’; ‘no-significance’) which generates an infinite regress (one action leading to another without resolve or significance). This “Abad” (place of no ‘signaling’) takes its toll upon Job’s critical thinking and emotional well being. Nonetheless, Job remains consistently truthful to his ‘report’ within his shadow logic.
I do share Job’s sentiments as I did with my parent’s failing health. How would you like to be judged as ‘evil’ by actions out of your control such as schizophrenia, bi-polar disorder, manic-depression, borderline personality disorder, –or, the natural deterioration of one’s well being such as Alzheimers, etc.? A concluding question arises out of these afflictions, namely: if these are not meaningless afflictions then they must be meaningful. Then, the question arises: what is meaningful?
To me, maybe to you, a dog cannot ‘choose’ to purr like a kitten, gibber like an ape, chut like a guinea pig or whinny like a zebra by its nature. A dog, by the *limitations* of its nature, does ‘act’ to bark. In this ‘act’ to bark there is honesty/ integrity to the ‘integral’ function of what “dog”, as verb and noun “means” and “does”. Therefore, there is no sin accrued to the account of the dog.
From my take on Job’s case, I do not see that Job has sinned in his newly found *limitations*. He ‘acts’ from the limitations of his nature”. Job acts within the integrity of his beset delusion.
I believe that the DARK honesty spoken through Job’s mouth was from the “moors” or heathen field of Satan’s limited voice. Consistently, I witness throughout the dialogues of Satan in the Bible the laws of limitation, hence, the dark “moors” by which he must travail upon.
Being somewhat of a cult classic Horror film fan, I’m always fascinated by my favorite ‘monster’, the Wolfman. In many of the traditional ‘takes’ on the original idea of the Wolfman we have gypsies who carry ancient knowledge of such an occult being as the Wolfman. In one of my favorite cult classics, “An American Werewolf in London”, though no gypsies, the bar keep and patrons of the bar called “The Slaughtered Lamb” tell Jack and David (two American college students who are travelling through England by foot) to stay off the Moors, travel on the path away from the Moors. The “Slaughtered Lamb” has somewhat of an allusion to the ‘safe house’ for the patrons felt safe there from the Wolfman. Grendel in Beowulf was known for being a “moor walker”. Though, we know that the relationship of Satan to God and to others is not a necessary constant in memorialized Heathen Literature – or movies, comic books, etc.. Though, the “Monster”, etymologically speaking, comes from the Latin “monstrum” which means a “Divine Omen”. Yet deeper than the Latin, monstrum, we are given in the Proto Indo European the word “ *moneie – “ which means, “to be mindful of, admonish, advise, warn, instruct, teach, to think about —[zero grade: p.i.e. : *men – “to think”. Interestingly, the Anglo Saxon gives us the ‘’monster” – as “aeg-laec” – “ugly”. Grendel was a moor walker (Anglo-Saxon: “mearc-stapa”—> “moor wanderer” —’’going to and fro on uncultivated ground/ heath [ Beowulf: line 103] ). Grendel traversed the moors, especially the rim of the moors, the ‘bounds that enclose’ the moors. I say, away-laec’s playground/ lair”.
Job 3:3-5 (vs. 3) “Damn the Day I was born
The night that said, ‘a boy
was begot’
(vs. 4) That Day -let it be darkness.
God above ignore it.
No light break upon it
(vs. 5) Darkness and gloom claim *it*,
Cloud settle over it
Eclipse terrify it
In Job 3:3, Job says, “damn *The Day*”. In the Hebrew text of Job 3:3 – we read: “ya-abad-yom” {Qal imperfect – “let perish the Day”}
In this statement, Job assigns no Deity to Damn the Day in the Hebrew.
SO, I ask the question: by what “agency” is Job referring to? That is, who would “Damn the Day”?
The Integrity of error
Job declines from his sound doctrinal stance with God yet does not sin–because he is still saying the truth from the perspective of his worldview. That is, Job is consistently honest with his new participation inside Shadow Logic.
The MISS
Job spoke for AGONY as though it was Reason. Still, in Job’s Shadow Logic, Job never attributed power or causality to another Deity other than YHVH. Even in the words of Job’s Shadow Logic, Job reasoned the “impossibility” of another Deity other than YHVH. Though, constantly not mentioning YHVH, the spoken words from Shadow Logic seemed to ‘give way’ to YHVH. That is, Job’s words were shown to be governed by a specified ‘blindness’ of THE CAUSAL AGENCY —( God blinds, gives sight, gives reason, takes reason away, etc.) first seen in Job 3:3 as Job’s failure to assign in “Damning the Day”. To me, this failure to assign causality was a painfully obvious “aporia (irresolvable internal contradiction or logical disjunction in a theory)” – if applied to the illusory doctrines of fatalism that leads to nihilism.
Again, Fate cannot hold the title of non-agency of causality and then acclaim “causality”. Fates are meaningless by their definition—a bios, a current, an effect. Nature and Fate might be equitive terms.
Recalling the interview with Joseph Campbell and Bill Moyers. Joseph, one of the world’s highest acclaimed mythologist, was asked by Bill Moyers: “Joseph, knowing all that you know, travelling to hundreds of remote villages, countries, islands, etc..and studying their languages, religions, beliefs taboos, etc….What have you personally concluded to be meaning of Life?” … Joseph answered: “There is no meaning to life”. Bill Moyers, being a good natured and very liberal ordained Baptist minister said, “this is ludicrous!” “You mean to tell me that in all the knowledge you have acquired you have concluded this?”
Lol. If I may take over here… Knowing all of Joseph’s works, Joseph was saying with my paraphrase included: ‘meaning is derived from what is meaningful…the chess board is Life –that is, the board of laws, rules, –how nature works. We, the people on the board, are the pieces by which our degrees are respectively played out on the board of rules. This is still not meaning as of yet. Meaning comes from the INTENT by the INTENDER who plays both sides and signifies ITS authority by the intangible act upon the tangible board as Magistrate.
Job’s actions thus so far have led me to conclude that Job was arrested with what I will call, Shadow Logic.
Job, the Mythologer
“Damn the Day I was born
The night that said, ‘a boy
was begot’
(vs. 4) That Day -let it be darkness.
God above ignore it.
No light break upon it
(vs. 5) Darkness and gloom claim *it*,
Cloud settle over it
Eclipse terrify it
The convolution of commanding particular elements of creation to ACT or FATE– which in Job’s abandoned worldview were all under God’s Sovereign rule– even deny the doctrines of old world Heathenism which give the Fates power over the gods by:
a) using nonce intermediary compliant forces to “damn” the Day at first
b) Tells God to “ignore” it (the only time Job refers to God in his delusion)
c) assuming that he, Job, is in command to speak into existence ‘a reality’ that Reality might be subsumed
Job hides himself from God in the illusory doctrines of fatalism via a ‘doctrine of Shadows’ and not a Reality
Job’s damns the Day that ‘a boy ( Job ) is begot’ and subscribes to this *Fate* as *Day*/ Day as Fate.
* I might add here to the “HORROR” of this statement by my hypothesis: I believe that Satan was (seen, heard, felt) as
a) an ‘objective (seen, heard, experienced in the physical world) literary mechanism’ which talked to YHVH in the first two chapters
b) the words of Job’s wife’s mouth: “Curse God and Die (for your loss)”.
c) a Prophet of Shadows for “The Satan’s own demise – does Job not have the very words of Portent or Prophecy from the Devil’s perspective?!? —-Such a Miltonian theme here!! — “Damn the NIGHT that a Boy (JESUS CHRIST) was begotten”. Moreover!–A pre-Mosaic-Mesopotamian which held a SATANIC prophecy of the Christ to come!!!
have only seen Christ typologies in Job. Job was righteous in all of his ways. The Lex Talionis/ Codex Hammurabi was a law code that would have been stated here during Job’s lifetime had there been an infraction of the law by Job. Yet, no infraction. Job was clean, pure, above the law of retribution … .and still, God caused the calamity upon Job (as accepted in Job 1 and 2 as coming from GOD’s causal act. Job was not indebted to the law but a keeper of the law. Job was stated as righteous in this way which answers to the later false claims of his ‘friends’ who ‘comfort-indicted’ him as having done something to incur a punishment from God. We will find that “THE SATAN” is the one, in his jurisdiction, to act in speech through these “friends”. In the flesh, Job, we will find, was in hell for a few days, ‘cut off from God’ via the beliefs of fatalism, infinite regress, dualism, doctrines of rogue agency-free will, and retributive ideas that have NOTHING to do with Grace.
Job has not sinned here in his Sheol, or Hell. He is speaking from Sheol with the words of “THE SATAN” —-as did Peter, the Cornerstone of the True Christian Church.
Even Peter was called, “Satan”, when Peter told Jesus that Jesus wouldn’t “suffer unto death (*THE CUP*).
Did EVEN JESUS as His Father in the Garden of Gethsemane to “let this CUP pass—none the less, Your WILL will be done!”
In all of that, Jesus did not sin, regardless of the words of dismissing the CUP unto death. Both Peter and Jesus said words that would have alleviated pain, suffering, death, CALAMITY to ‘have passed’. Peter held to the uncommitted and unfounded Prophecy that substantiates The MESSIAH as Jesus. To deny THIS Death is to deny Jesus for Who He was and IS.
Job 3:4 – “That *Day*–let it be darkness, God above ignore it (Sheol – out of sight) No light break upon it (–also, “it” is ‘the Fated *Day*- fates supervening fates implied under the speech of “the Shadows” of dark allotments/ doom/ —as Tolkien might say, “in the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie”)
Job 3:5 -Darkness (as *Fate*) and *Gloom* (as *Fate*) claim it, Cloud (as *Fate*) settle over it Job uses a ½ antemetabole {antemetabole – example: “foul is fair and fair is foul” MacBeth’s Witches usage of “reversio” and “antemetabole” (cf. bottom for glossary).
The brilliance I see via usage of the literary mechanism employed in Job is what we call, “Antemetabole” (cf “reversio” as a usual by-product of “antemetabole” in writings such as MacBeth meaning “all things being reversed”, is that there is no “reversed” mechanism found as in MacBeth’s “Fates”—
There is a dark-brilliance (that we are both controlled by and are not controlled by,
as is the spirit of “the whore of Babylon” and her ‘train’ or spirit which corrupted the peoples of the world–that she was, is not and will be. A geist of ‘effect’–as the hand of God rather than a substantial objective reality. I remember reading one of my all time favorite pagan poets, Robert Graves, in college (as I should have been studying my chemistry) — who, in my periphrastic attempt to quote him in his work, “White Goddess”, (referring to Revelation 17: – ff) “ ‘She’, the ‘whore’ as the Christians call her, is to be venerated by me. Her life force drives my passions, my life force, my life… it is SHE that corrupted the Christians from their beginnings, naturally, as is mentioned in Revelation. Is SHE, therefore, to be dismissed as illusion?! –if she is, then, the Christians are delusional and exist upon a counterfeit war with “HER” in a counterfeit belief! Such a religion the Jews and Christians have shared from her days of antiquity into the Common era. These religions have made up yet another sacrifice to hate and kill”.
I confess that I added here the spirit of Robert Graves that I know through my eyes when I was a Heathen-Christian. You must understand the ‘other side’ of things. You must have the ‘full plate’ without fear before coming to a fuller thought.
I believe that this “life force-goddess” was the goddess worshipped as a Sovereign life giver. This theme, found in the words of Job’s wife, resonates with me. She told Job to basically condemn the god that wouldn’t give life. BUT, you see—this very ‘belief’, not sound in doctrine, is not sound for this very reason: The goddess cannot be Sovereign if “Death” is out of Her hands. If she ONLY ‘gives life’, ‘abundance’, ‘wealth’, allotments, etc… she cannot be ‘known’ as the giver and taker away of these things. THIS is the very statement of Job concerning “THE GOD” who takes away and gives. Simply put, which “Deity” would be more Sovereign – as “Sovereign” SHOULD BE defined?
found in Job chapter 3Job’s new statement of shadow belief never ‘looks’ at the GOD for whom Job cannot employ in
—hence, ‘the circle’. Job is IN the circle of Ouroboros (‘snake eating its own tail–rebirthing after its own cannibalization, repeating the ‘cycle’)
Job “blames” the “nothingness” for his “Plight” – Job attributes “power” to ‘nothing that is’ —the exact opposite of what God teaches Job later: God created the evil and sent the evil to Job to purify and bless him – cf. Job 42:11-17.
I found 7 points within the Field of Job’s ‘fatalism’ which led to infinite regression/ nihilism:
1) Job’s attribution to “the plight” as a ‘replacement Theology’ for Job’s past beliefs and doctrine within God’s Sovereign Intent. This ‘replacement Theology’ is laden with inconsistent and antithetical motifs to an Intentful Sovereign God. These inconsistent and antithetical motifs verify their own laws of ‘infinite regress’
2) “Plight” is a nonsense word- or “nonce” word as a ‘false signal’
3) The “Bru-ha-ha” of war/ devastation/ riot/ eats its own tail only to return again
4) There is no ‘direction’ other than reaction and muddled self referencing (equivocation).
5) The ‘field of fatalism’ is the board of no rule containment; the field of fatalism is without loving Intent; the field of fatalism is the field of ‘blankets’ of allotments to debts which are deaths. The field of Fatalism is the field by which the only signals there are are the signs leading to your death. The field of Fatalism’s ‘belief’ is limited and finite: ‘hold on to your goods, riches, stuff and things UNTIL *that DAY* by which “fate” came upon you and signals all things to–i.e., your Death; your debt.
6) A failed “theodicy” is an invention to believe that God is placed within the field of Bru-ha ha/ –a land of no signals, a land of “evil” – where God has NO part to take from this ‘field of evil’, ‘field of calamity’. As an example: many ‘nicer’ christianties try to implement various theodicies to argue out God’s responsibility of any evil in this world —moral or physical. Such thinking leads inevitably to ‘dualism’
7) God’s INTENT is taken out of the illusory belief in Job’s archaic Theodicy, because Job only address ‘calamity’ as ‘evil’ and ‘evil’ as ‘plight’ and ‘the Day’ as the bringer of the ‘plight’ and the Day to be darkened out and ‘not have ever been’. This is Nihilism. Nihilism, in fact, is the result of infinite regressive thinking—-though, an infinite regressive wouldn’t tell you that, initially :).
I propose that the lessons learned from the book of Job are as follows:
The Fall of our Nation is based upon the syncretic notion of pagan autonomous “Free Will” within the Church.
This syncretic practice both extols both the Church and the flesh –defaming both
The “Story” of Job was not a Heathen one but the explanation of the condition of the natural man as a believer in YHVH who MUST BE PURGED by a satan.
The Sumerian contemporary and possible Eblaite story of the man Job built us a foundation from which we have hope to rise from.
The distinction is vast between modern Christian belief and the story of Job’s relationship with the pre-Mosaic understanding of YHVH’s expression as found in the Narrative of Job.
The blame is not upon the satan in Job. This is not so in much of modern thinking, especially that of modern Christians.
Job’s story is about the purging of Job, let’s say, “Job in hell” —if only for a moment to observe the best of us in hell
THEREFORE
Job’s recap via formula might go as follows:
Job chapters 1 and 2 Antagonist ( “the Satan”) > Antagonist is subsumed as the ‘Will of God’ – that is: God creates Good and Calamity > Job’s wife’s words denote her following a Satanic alliance- i.e., “the doctrine of Dao-mne” as what we find in the Early European and Greek meaning “to distribute fortunes”. Therefore, loss of gain is the negation of good > Job acts as a prophet of God’s Divine Will by what Job does not/ cannot say–being that Job is “fixed” to fatalism, nihilism, infinite regress” of ‘negation’ of Divine Will >Job, as the voice of Satan, still prophesied the “boy begotten” as a cursed Day within the context of Nihilism’s rule-THIS, is possibly the Satanic Prophecy of the coming of the Messiah and the Despair of Nihilism’s rule> ‘half antemetabole’ used: “THE DAY – LET IT BE DARKNESS —” is not completed to say, “ The Day – let it be darkness and Darkness, let it be Day” – Job doesn’t say, “tables turned” in this..what Job is saying is: “let the Light be Black” and nothing else. Let the Darkness rule and no light be used. This tells me that Job is not sinning, that he is only seeing Creation without God and the justification that there can’t be an employed “SENSE, PRIMA CAUSE, INTENT, RESOLVE, etc.